Posts by Fading Begins

Okage - what a beautiful, compassionate, loving individual you must be. Thank you for taking the time to tell spirtun and the rest of us your story, and showing this young man such empathy. And yes I agree with Pickler - spiritun you have had a lucky escape. You will find someone who appreciates and deserves your sensitivity, and loving heart. Just hang in there.

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Thinking of having revenge on the jw girl

by spirituk in

hello again, following my story with this girl , and after she blocked me on fb and not answering my phone calls since december , i am now thinking of taking revenge.my feelings of pain are starting to become hate ,and pain always is accompanied by the feeling of revenge to satisfy this bad feeling.i just cant simply forget what shes done to me.

the reasons of my revenge :.

1.she played with my feelings when she knew from the start that she would leave me one day.

Fading Begins

It find this discussion very enlightening and also kind of ironic. The majority of us, who are member's of this board have gone through pain, injustice, humuliation, cruelty, and disillusionment. This has been caused (according to the society) by a woman, our "spiritul mother", the borg. I would also state, that there are very few among us that don't hope, everyday to see in the news, something that will "out" this hypocritical, cruel, disgusting entity - that we once thought we had a very loving relationship with - and I for one, would in a minute, be front and centre, to offer any "evidence" that might bring the borg down. We haven't moved on, or we wouldn't be so quick to comment, as we do, everytime something comes to our attention that will bring some negative attention to the organization. I myself feel joy, and vindication when this happens.

And so I find it ironic, when we have a (yes, noted, very small, minor) parallel in spirituk's story of pain, humliation and disillusion caused by a woman who knew exactly what she was doing, to our emotional relationship with the borg. She knew when she started into the relationship, she was going to break his heart. She let him go so far, as to spend his own money to travel to another country to visit her. Why didn't she put up the red light before he left - at least it would have saved him some money.

Of course he should wait and think things through, but why is his desire for justice, revenge, vindication any different than ours. Yes, we can say that we don't want any more unsuspecting "sheep" to fall into the borg's trap, and we are still trying to get our loved ones to see the light, but why is this so different from Spiritun's thinking. We lament consistently that the borg never listens - eg. the child abuse issue of reporting to the authorities first, and two witness rule - and if they at least acted on that, we would feel some relief. So, why should this "sister" just walk away from her actions - at least two men she's knowingly entered into serious relationships with and left them out of "guilt" because they were "non-believers" - why should their not be consequences for her so that there won't be any more unsuspecting men falling into her "trap" and ending up like spirituk.

Spirtuk lives in another country, and sending any info he has about the uncaring actions of this woman, is not "stalking", any more than us, using every weapon we have at our disposal to protect other innocent people from the borg is "stalking". I still beleive she needs to be held accountable for her actions, to protect any other unsuspecting male she might prey on in the future.

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Thinking of having revenge on the jw girl

by spirituk in

hello again, following my story with this girl , and after she blocked me on fb and not answering my phone calls since december , i am now thinking of taking revenge.my feelings of pain are starting to become hate ,and pain always is accompanied by the feeling of revenge to satisfy this bad feeling.i just cant simply forget what shes done to me.

the reasons of my revenge :.

1.she played with my feelings when she knew from the start that she would leave me one day.

Fading Begins

Punkofnice - I appreciate your comment, but if Spirtuk is not being totally honest, then he would have absolutley no "evidence" to present about this sister, and we have no discussion. If he has physical proof of the dishonesty, hypocritical and premeditated heartless behaviour of this so-called sister, then I think he should send it.

To your question, no I do not know this particular sister, but in my many decades of being part of the borg, I have had dealings with many sisters like this, my sister being one. As I said in my previous comment - if this was the first time, I could overlook it, it's not - we know there's been at least two similiar situations, and their could be more, that we are not aware of. The fact that she bragged that the previous unbeliever still loves her, shows how shallow she is. My thoughts on this are not about punishment through the borg, its about stopping a shallow, egotistical, cruel person from hurting anyone else.

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Thinking of having revenge on the jw girl

by spirituk in

hello again, following my story with this girl , and after she blocked me on fb and not answering my phone calls since december , i am now thinking of taking revenge.my feelings of pain are starting to become hate ,and pain always is accompanied by the feeling of revenge to satisfy this bad feeling.i just cant simply forget what shes done to me.

the reasons of my revenge :.

1.she played with my feelings when she knew from the start that she would leave me one day.

Fading Begins

If this was the first time she did this to an unbeliever, and then having her "guilt attack" and learning from her mistake, then I would agree with the rest of the posters here. But its not, and this woman needs to reap the consequences of her actions, not out of revenge but out of justice. She is a "user", selfish and a hypocrite. She does this to unsuspecting "unbelievers", playing with their emotions, knowing from the beginning that she isn't going to follow-through with the relationship, and not caring who she is hurting. Many JW women have this notion that unbelievers don't count in the greater picture, so they can get a few thrills, and it pumps up their ego, and then they can go back into the warm little borg cocoon without a look back.

She has probably done this with other men online, but most would not travel from their country to hers, so she gets away with it. If there are no consequences, she will keep playing out this same fantasy without any guilt or concern for what she is doing to these men. I think you should wrap up your little parcel of goodies and send it off to her Kingdom Hall address. Nothing will happen to her, because there isn't "two witnesses", but it might make her think twice about pulling this cruel little stunt again. You can feel better, knowing you will have prevented this from happening to some other suspecting bloke. Then walk away and get on with your life. As you now know, she's not worth it!

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

jw
friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

I love it Outlaw!!

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

jw
friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

Everybody, thanks for all the great comments. As far as my own views I have felt that I always had a "relationship with Jehovah" (I know it sounds cheesy and a borg cliche) but I believe that God looks at organized religion as the anti-christ, whether it is JW's or Christendom, the moonies or the mormons. So I feel like we are falling into the JW trap when we let them make us bitter and blame God for their disgusting behavior and lies, arnd borgs hidden agenda is to turn us away from God. What do you think? Too far over the top?

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Do you blame Jehovah, Yahweh, God, Jesus, etc. for the corruption of the borg?

by Fading Begins in

jw
friends

do you hold god accountable for the corruption of the borg?

i've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "god" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc.

do the borg's transgressions originate with god, or does he feel the same disgust as we do?

Fading Begins

Do you hold God accountable for the corruption of the borg? I've noticed there seems to be a bitterness, by some, that includes "God" in the equation, when discussing the borg and their policies, the governing body, elders actions, etc. Do the borg's transgressions originate with God, or does he feel the same disgust as we do? Just interested in your thoughts .

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Rumor : Elders' meeting about pedophilia issues

by yalbmert99 in

hi everyone, there is a rumor on a french speaking forum saying that the elders were to assist to a 9 h meeting,yesterday or today depending on availability, about pedophilia exclusively.

meeting directed by an circuit overseer.

more infos to come.

Fading Begins

This was an unusual meeting for our area. The elders school is always held in a centralized city (within a hundred and fifty kms of everyone, but this was held in a bigger city supposedly at the assembly hall. Some elders had to travel over 300 kms. MS were not invited, and it lasted almost 9 hours. Seemed pretty urgent.

Was this just in Ottawa, Ontario? Anybody know of any other meetings held elsewhere?